Saint Joan

by

George Bernard Shaw

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Institutions and the Corruption of Integrity Theme Analysis

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In Saint Joan, Shaw takes issue with previous adaptations of the Joan of Arc narrative that situate Joan as the undeniable heroine and her accusers as inarguable villains. To Shaw, such interpretations oversimplify Joan’s story and don’t try to understand the institutional structures that informed Joan’s and her accusers’ ethical frameworks and, subsequently, influenced their actions. Peter Cauchon, the Bishop of Beauvais and a French ally to the English, for example, condemns Joan and the heresy she commits against the Catholic Church, arguing that he has a religious obligation to save Joan’s soul from damnation. While Cauchon’s spirituality is a major driving force in his condemnation of Joan—and what allows him to see such a condemnation as ethically just—his ties to the Catholic Church and the desire for it to remain in power give his intentions a political aspect, effectively corrupting the integrity of his spiritual reasons for trying Joan. In general, Shaw suggests, authority figures like Cauchon make decisions based on what will enable their institutions to remain in power rather than on the ethical frameworks their institutions promote. People themselves might not be inherently villainous, but their obligation to uphold institutional power allows for the corruption of their ideals.

Initially, Cauchon says that it is his religious obligation that motivates his desire to bring Joan to justice. As a bishop, he has a responsibility to intercede, as believes that the voices Joan hears come not from God but from the devil. (Joan repeatedly insists that she receives messages from God conveyed to her directly through the voices of saints she hears in her head.) Joan’s supposed direct communication with God is problematic for Cauchon because it rejects the idea that one needs the Church’s guidance to hear and understand the word of God—in other words, Joan is prioritizing the word of her voices over the word of the Church. In Scene IV, Cauchon states: “When [the devil] strikes, he strikes at the Catholic Church, whose realm is the whole spiritual world. When he damns, he damns the souls of the entire human race. […] And it is as one of the instruments of that design that I see this girl. She is inspired, but diabolically inspired.” If the devil’s intent is to destroy the Church and “damn[] the souls of the entire human race,” it is ethically just of Cauchon to do everything in his power to stop Joan. Cauchon clearly articulates that his intentions for punishing Joan aren’t inherently cruel. As a Church leader, he considers it his “first duty to seek this girl’s salvation,” and he has no desire to torture Joan unjustly.

Despite Cauchon’s repeated insistence that his first priority is to save Joan’s soul, however, this is not his only motivation for wanting Joan brought to trial—it is most important to Cauchon that the Catholic Church remains strong and in power. In this way, Cauchon’s worldly obligations to the institution of the Church corrupt his spiritual obligations to God. Joan doesn’t believe she needs the Church as an intermediary to connect with God—she hears, understands, and acts on her voices and visions without the Church’s guidance. Joan’s rejection of the clergy threatens the Church’s hold on power, and Cauchon knows he must put her campaign to an end, lest her rebellion spread to the masses. Cauchon perceives Joan as a threat because her personal connection to God diminishes the hold the Church has on Catholics and lessens its institutional power. “What will the world be like when The Church’s accumulated wisdom and knowledge and experience, its councils of learned, venerable pious men, are thrust into the kennel by every ignorant laborer or dairy-maid whom the devil can puff up with monstrous self-conceit of being directly inspired by heaven?” Cauchon asks of Richard de Beauchamp, Earl of Warwick (a nobleman in charge of England’s military forces). He answers his own question, exclaiming, “It will be a world of blood, fury, of devastation, of each man striving for his own hand: in the end a world wrecked back into barbarism.” From Cauchon’s perspective, without the guidance of the Church, the world will revert to chaos and “barbarism” because it lacks the order and structure institutions provide. In the end, it’s more important to Cauchon to ensure that the Church maintains its hold over the people than it is to save Joan from eternal damnation.

Although Warwick is only peripherally concerned with the heresy of which Cauchon accuses Joan, he extends sympathy toward Cauchon’s condemnation of Joan to advance his own political cause. Warwick’s actions highlight how corruption abounds even outside the Church, as he sacrifices his integrity in order to preserve his political institution. Joan’s demand for a king that answers to God alone threatens Warwick’s position in England’s existing feudal system. For this reason, he sees Joan’s mission as “a cunning device to supersede the aristocracy.” If God (via the King) becomes society’s only ruler, feudal lords like Warwick will lose their power. Although Warwick isn’t completely convinced of Joan’s heresy, he goes along with Cauchon’s charges: “These two ideas of hers are the same idea at bottom,” he allows, “It goes deep, my lord. It is the protest of the individual soul against the interference of priest or peer between the private man and his God.” Cauchon recognizes that if he adjusts his own secular charges to legitimize Cauchon’s religious ones, both men can defeat what they perceive as a threat against their respective institutions. When Warwick asserts that Joan’s “two ideas […] are the same idea at bottom” he acknowledges the tension between the individual and the institution at play in Joan’s revolutionary “ideas” concerning politics and spirituality. In either case, Joan’s philosophies promote the strength of the individual at the expense of larger institutions. Her call for an individual king who answers to God alone threatens the existing feudal system much in the way that her belief in a personal experience with Christianity threatens the power the Catholic Church holds over individuals who have been taught that they need the Church to fully understand God.

Warwick and Cauchon have vastly different reasons for wanting to halt Joan’s crusade—Warwick’s are more political, and Cauchon’s are more spiritual—but they are united in their mutual desire to see that their institutions remain in power. The extent to which either man is willing to compromise his own ethics in order to entertain the conflicting ethics of the other suggests that power and moral integrity are mutually exclusive.

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Institutions and the Corruption of Integrity Quotes in Saint Joan

Below you will find the important quotes in Saint Joan related to the theme of Institutions and the Corruption of Integrity.
Scene 1 Quotes

“We want a few mad people now. See where the sane ones have landed us!”

Related Characters: Bertrand de Poulengey (speaker), Joan (“The Maid”), Robert de Baudricourt, Jean, Comte de Dunois, Bastard of Orleans
Page Number: 67
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ROBERT. How do you mean? voices?

JOAN. I hear voices telling me what to do. They come from God.

ROBERT. They come from your imagination.

JOAN. Of course. That is how the messages of God come to us.

Related Characters: Joan (“The Maid”) (speaker), Robert de Baudricourt (speaker)
Related Symbols: Joan’s Armor
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Page Number: 68
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Scene 2 Quotes

“A miracle, my friend, is an event which creates faith. That is the purpose and nature of miracles. They may seem very wonderful to the people who witness them, and very simple to those who perform them. That does not matter: if they confirm or create faith they are true miracles.”

Related Characters: The Archbishop of Rheims (Regnault de Chartres) (speaker), Joan (“The Maid”), Georges, Duc de la Trémouille, Constable of France, Gilles de Rais (“Bluebeard”), The Dauphin (King Charles VII)
Page Number: 79
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“You are not a churchman; but you are a diplomatist and a soldier. Could you make our citizens pay war taxes, or our soldiers sacrifice their lives, if they knew what is really happening instead of what seems to them to be happening?”

Related Characters: The Archbishop of Rheims (Regnault de Chartres) (speaker), Joan (“The Maid”), Georges, Duc de la Trémouille, Constable of France, Gilles de Rais (“Bluebeard”), The Dauphin (King Charles VII)
Page Number: 79
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“Do not think that I am a lover of crooked ways. There is a new spirit rising in men: we are at the dawning of a wider epoch. If I were a simple monk, and had not to rule men, I should seek peace for my spirit with Aristotle and Pythagoras rather than with the saints and their miracles.”

Related Characters: The Archbishop of Rheims (Regnault de Chartres) (speaker), Joan (“The Maid”), Georges, Duc de la Trémouille, Constable of France, Gilles de Rais (“Bluebeard”), The Dauphin (King Charles VII)
Page Number: 80
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“Minding your own business is like minding your own body: it’s the shortest way to make yourself sick.”

Related Characters: Joan (“The Maid”) (speaker), Gilles de Rais (“Bluebeard”), The Dauphin (King Charles VII)
Page Number: 86
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Scene 3 Quotes

DUNOIS. I, God forgive me, am a little in love with war myself, the ugly devil! I am like a man with two wives. Do you want to be like a woman with two husbands?

JOAN. [matter-of-fact] I will never take a husband. A man in Toul took action against me for breach of promise; but I never promised him. I am a soldier: I do not want to be thought of as a woman. I will not dress as a woman. I do not care for the things women care for. They dream of lovers, and money. I dream of leading a charge, and of placing the big guns.

Related Characters: Joan (“The Maid”) (speaker), Jean, Comte de Dunois, Bastard of Orleans
Related Symbols: Joan’s Armor
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Page Number: 92
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Scene 4 Quotes

“Men cannot serve two masters. If this cant of serving their country once takes hold of them, goodbye to the authority of their feudal lords, and goodbye to the authority of the Church. That is, goodbye to you and me.”

Related Characters: Richard de Beauchamp, Earl of Warwick (speaker), Joan (“The Maid”), John Bowyer Spenser Neville de Stogumber (Warwick’s Chaplain), Peter (Píerre) Cauchon, Bishop of Beauvais
Page Number: 96
Explanation and Analysis:

“When he strikes, he strikes at the Catholic Church, whose realm is the whole spiritual world. When he damns, he damns the souls of the entire human race. Against that dreadful design The Church stands ever on guard. And it is as one of the instruments of that design that I see this girl. She is inspired, but diabolically inspired.”

Related Characters: Peter (Píerre) Cauchon, Bishop of Beauvais (speaker), Joan (“The Maid”), Richard de Beauchamp, Earl of Warwick, John Bowyer Spenser Neville de Stogumber (Warwick’s Chaplain)
Page Number: 100
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“You great lords are too prone to treat The Church as a mere political convenience.”

Related Characters: Peter (Píerre) Cauchon, Bishop of Beauvais (speaker), Joan (“The Maid”), Richard de Beauchamp, Earl of Warwick, John Bowyer Spenser Neville de Stogumber (Warwick’s Chaplain)
Page Number: 101
Explanation and Analysis:

“She acts as if she herself were The Church. She brings the message of God to Charles; and The Church must stand aside. She will crown him in the cathedral of Rheims: she, not The Church! She sends letters to the king of England giving him God’s command through her to return to his island on pain of God’s vengeance, which she will execute. […] Has she ever in all her utterances said one word of The Church? Never. It is always God and herself.”

Related Characters: Peter (Píerre) Cauchon, Bishop of Beauvais (speaker), Joan (“The Maid”), Richard de Beauchamp, Earl of Warwick, John Bowyer Spenser Neville de Stogumber (Warwick’s Chaplain)
Page Number: 103
Explanation and Analysis:

“My lord: we shall not defeat The Maid if we strive against one another. […] The devil divides us and governs. I see you are no friend to The Church: you are an earl first and last, as I am a churchman first and last. But can we not sink our differences in the face of a common enemy?”

Related Characters: Peter (Píerre) Cauchon, Bishop of Beauvais (speaker), Joan (“The Maid”), Richard de Beauchamp, Earl of Warwick, John Bowyer Spenser Neville de Stogumber (Warwick’s Chaplain)
Page Number: 106-107
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Scene 5 Quotes

“Well, I have to find reasons for you, because you do not believe in my voices. But the voices come first; and I find the reasons after: whatever you may choose to believe.”

Related Characters: Joan (“The Maid”) (speaker), The Dauphin (King Charles VII), Jean, Comte de Dunois, Bastard of Orleans
Page Number: 111
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“You came clothed with the virtue of humility; and because God blessed your enterprises accordingly, you have stained yourself with the sin of pride. The old Greek tragedy is rising among us. It is the chastisement of hubris.”

Related Characters: The Archbishop of Rheims (Regnault de Chartres) (speaker), Joan (“The Maid”), The Dauphin (King Charles VII)
Page Number: 113
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Scene 6 Quotes

“You must not fall into the common error of mistaking these simpletons for liars and hypocrites. They believe honestly and sincerely that their diabolical inspiration is divine. Therefore you must be on guard against your natural compassion. […] You are going to see before you a young girl, pious and chaste; for I must tell you, gentlemen, that the things said of her by our English friends are supported by no evidence, whilst there is abundant testimony that her excesses have been excesses of religion and charity and not of worldliness and wantonness. This girl is not one of those whose hard features are the sign of hard hearts, and whose brazen looks and lewd demeanor condemn them before they are accused. The devilish pride that has led her into her present peril had left no mark on her countenance. Strange as it may seem to you, it has even left no mark on her character outside those special matters in which she is proud; so that you will see a diabolical pride and a natural humility seated side by side in the selfsame soul.”

Related Characters: Brother John Lemaître (The Inquisitor) (speaker), Joan (“The Maid”), Robert de Baudricourt, The Archbishop of Rheims (Regnault de Chartres), Peter (Píerre) Cauchon, Bishop of Beauvais
Page Number: 129
Explanation and Analysis:

“What other judgment can I judge by but my own?”

Related Characters: Joan (“The Maid”) (speaker), Peter (Píerre) Cauchon, Bishop of Beauvais
Page Number: 136
Explanation and Analysis:

“There is great wisdom in the simplicity of a beast, let me tell you; and sometimes great foolishness in the wisdom of scholars.”

Related Characters: Joan (“The Maid”) (speaker), Brother John Lemaître (The Inquisitor)
Page Number: 139
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“But to shut me from the light of the sky and the sight of the fields and flowers; to chain my feet so that I can never again ride with the soldiers nor climb the hills; to make me breathe foul damp darkness, and keep me from everything that brings me back to the love of God when your wickedness and foolishness tempt me to hate Him: all this is worse than the furnace in the Bible that was heated seven times. I could do without my warhorse; I could drag about in a skirt; I could let the banners and the trumpets and the knights and soldiers pass me and leave me behind as they leave the other women, if only I could still hear the wind in the trees, the larks in the sunshine, the young lambs crying through the healthy frost, and the blessed blessed church bells that send my angel voices floating to me on the wind.”

Related Characters: Joan (“The Maid”) (speaker), Brother John Lemaître (The Inquisitor)
Related Symbols: Nature, Joan’s Armor
Page Number: 143
Explanation and Analysis:

“One gets used to it. Habit is everything. I am accustomed to the fire; it is soon over.”

Related Characters: Brother John Lemaître (The Inquisitor) (speaker), Joan (“The Maid”), Peter (Píerre) Cauchon, Bishop of Beauvais
Page Number: 145
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Epilogue Quotes

“I was always a rough one: a regular soldier. I might almost as well have been a man. Pity I wasn’t: I should not have bothered you all so much then.”

Related Characters: Joan (“The Maid”) (speaker), The Dauphin (King Charles VII), Jean, Comte de Dunois, Bastard of Orleans
Page Number: 153
Explanation and Analysis:

“It is the memory and the salvation that sanctify the cross, not the cross that sanctifies the memory and the salvation.”

Related Characters: Joan (“The Maid”) (speaker), The Dauphin (King Charles VII)
Page Number: 154
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“Yes: it is always you good men that do the big mischiefs.”

Related Characters: The Dauphin (King Charles VII) (speaker), Joan (“The Maid”), Peter (Píerre) Cauchon, Bishop of Beauvais
Page Number: 155
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“The heretic is always better dead. And mortal eyes cannot distinguish the saint from the heretic. Spare them.”

Related Characters: Peter (Píerre) Cauchon, Bishop of Beauvais (speaker), Joan (“The Maid”)
Page Number: 163
Explanation and Analysis:

“O God that madest this beautiful earth, when will it be ready to receive Thy saints? How long, O Lord, how long?”

Related Characters: Joan (“The Maid”) (speaker)
Page Number: 164
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