That Was Then, This Is Now
by S. E. Hinton
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That Was Then, This Is Now: Chapter 2 Summary & Analysis

Summary
Analysis
The following afternoon, Mark and Bryon go to the hospital to visit Bryon’s mother. She has just had a big operation, and they sold their car and their TV to pay for it. Bryon has been trying to find a job to make more money, and Mark had scrounged up some money as well; Bryon doesn’t ask where Mark got the money, figuring that he stole it. Together, Bryon notes, they make a great pair: he is the hustler, and Mark is the thief. But Bryon explains that Mark doesn’t see anything wrong with stealing, while Bryon does. He says that Mark thinks stealing is only a game, and that one of the rules is to avoid getting caught.
The fact that Bryon is trying to find a job to cover the cost of his mother’s operation illustrates how his love for his mother naturally grows into a desire to be more selfless, particularly at a time of great need for her. Additionally, Bryon shows that Mark doesn’t care about breaking the rules—in fact, he cares more about the “rule” of not getting caught than the morality of stealing and the damage it causes for others. Bryon, on the other hand, recognizes the underlying morality of rules (despite breaking them) and realizes that stealing and hustling are wrong. But because he, like Mark, hasn’t suffered any consequences for their crimes, he is relatively undisturbed by their actions as well.
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Mark and Bryon hitch a ride to the hospital with a hippie named Randy. Bryon recalls a time when he and Mark beat up a couple hippies to seem tough—but they hadn’t realized that the hippies wouldn’t fight back. He recalls that what happened to one of the hippies they beat up made him sick, and so they left the hippies alone after that. Randy tells them about a house he lives in with friends, where anyone could come and live in peace. Bryon ignores Randy, but Mark is interested and asks Randy about the place.
Because Bryon and Mark were so disgusted by what they did when a hippie they beat up didn’t fight back, they resolved not to beat up any more hippies after that. This introduces the idea that even though nonviolence doesn’t always prevent violence in the moment, it can at least influence people to rethink their actions in the future.
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At the hospital, Bryon’s mom is glad to see Bryon and Mark. Bryon explains that as usual, his mom isn’t thinking about herself: she tells them that there is a kid across the hall named Mike who never gets visitors. She asks Mark and Bryon to go see the kid so that he has someone to talk to. Mark agrees, and Bryon concedes to go with Mark. But when they leave Bryon’s mom’s room, Mark heads over to the kid’s room, while Bryon instead goes to the snack bar to get a hamburger.
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Bryon sits and eats, explaining that he loves food and can’t get enough of it. He thinks that with his build, he could have gone out for football, but he knows he would never put up with a coach because he’s not good at accepting authority. Once, when Bryon was 13, he went to the movies and got drunk on cherry vodka. Afterward, he staggered alone on the street until two cops picked him up, drove him to a hill on the other side of town, and beat him up—which ruined his respect for cops.
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A cute girl behind the counter asks Bryon for his order. She then recognizes him and asks him how he is, saying that she just got back in town and started this new job. Bryon has trouble placing who she is at first—but after she brings him his order, he realizes that she’s Cathy, M&M’s older sister. He hadn’t recognized her because she grew out her hair and no longer has braces. As Cathy turns away from him, Bryon asks if they can talk sometime, and she agrees. He doesn’t ask when, however, as he is worried that he’ll seem too eager. 
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After Bryon eats, he returns to his mother’s floor and looks around for Mark. He then ducks into the kid’s room across the hall. Mark isn’t there, but Bryon starts talking to the kid, who explains that Mark went across the street to buy him some comics. The kid introduces himself as Mike Chambers, and he notes that Bryon and Mark don’t look alike for being brothers. Bryon is pleased that Mark told Mike they were brothers. He and Mike share a cigarette, even though they’re not supposed to smoke in the hospital.
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Mike has bandages around his head, both arms in slings, and stitches in his lip. Mike tells Bryon the story of how he was hurt, explaining that one day he and his gang were hanging around a drug store when a black girl named Connie came in to buy cigarettes. The gang immediately started to harass her and push her around, but Mike had intervened, telling the others to let her go. Knowing that Mike’s brother was a tough guy, the gang listened to him.
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After Connie left the drug store, Mike noticed that she missed her bus, and so he offered to drive her home. She was suspicious but accepted his offer, particularly because she would have to wait an hour for the next bus, and it was getting dark. When they got in the car, Mike started talking to her to try to make her feel better. He apologized for what happened in the drug store, and Connie started to cry. He realized that she was probably fed up with getting harassed by white people. He pulled over to offer her a handkerchief, and even though he didn’t have one, she thanked him.
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When Mike got to Connie’s house, she got out of the car, and a group of black guys surrounded him and pulled him out of the car. They asked Mike if he hurt Connie, which he adamantly denied this. When he told them to ask Connie whether he hurt her, she told the men, “kill the white bastard.” Mike finishes his story by saying that he doesn’t hate Connie or black people for what happened—he can almost see why they did it.
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Mark returns with the comics as Mike finishes his story. Soon after, Mark and Bryon leave Mike’s room, and Mark tells Bryon that he thinks Mike is pretty stupid. Bryon disagrees, thinking that he can see Mike’s point about not hating the people who beat him up. Mark, however, says that if anyone hurt him like that, he would hate the person for the rest of his life. Bryon explains that he didn’t think much about Mark’s statement at the time, but looking back on it, it drives him crazy.
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