That Was Then, This Is Now

by S. E. Hinton

Mark Jennings Character Analysis

Mark is Bryon’s 15-year-old best friend. When Mark was nine years old, his parents killed each other during a drunken fight and Bryon’s mother subsequently took him in. Since then, Bryon and Mark have thought of each other as brothers—a bond built by their mutual loyalty and physical and emotional support for one other. Due to his golden hair and eyes, Bryon often describes Mark as a lion, which speaks to Mark’s wildness and underlying predatory nature. Mark is an inveterate thief who disregards rules and only cares about getting caught. At the beginning of the book, he is on probation for hot-wiring and stealing cars. Despite this, he flagrantly ignores his punishment and steals the principal’s car. Even when he is caught doing this, he is able to talk his way out of punishment by arguing that he was going to see his probation officer. This ability to “get away with anything,” as Bryon says, only reinforces Mark’s feeling of invincibility and arrogance. Unlike Bryon, Mark never truly takes responsibility for his actions or understands the consequences that they might have on others. Mark doesn’t seem to care about anyone but himself and Bryon, and therefore he never acts selflessly. While Bryon gains a respectable, legal job in a supermarket, Mark instead sells drugs to kids. Mark observes how he and Bryon diverge over time, and how tension builds between them. This comes to a breaking point when Bryon, frustrated at Mark’s continued irresponsibility, decides to turn him in to the police. A judge then sentences Mark to five years in prison. Even in jail, Mark doesn’t acknowledge that what he did was wrong—instead, he focuses on how Bryon betrayed him and how much he hates Bryon as a result. Mark’s fate suggests that because he refused to act responsibly, he could not fully come of age; rather than becoming a functioning adult in society, he is removed from it entirely.

Mark Jennings Quotes in That Was Then, This Is Now

The That Was Then, This Is Now quotes below are all either spoken by Mark Jennings or refer to Mark Jennings. For each quote, you can also see the other characters and themes related to it (each theme is indicated by its own dot and icon, like this one:
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Chapter 1 Quotes

“It’s just as well,” Charlie said. “You guys are going to get in real bad trouble one of these days. Some guy’s going to get hacked off when he finds out what you’re doin’, and you’re gonna get a pool stick rammed down your throats.”

“No we ain’t,” Mark said. “Give me a Coke, Charlie.”

Related Characters: Mark Jennings (speaker), Charlie (speaker), Bryon Douglas
Page Number and Citation: 10-11
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I had been friends with Mark long before he came to live with us. He had lived down the street and it seemed to me that we had always been together. We had never had a fight. We had never even had an argument. In looks, we were complete opposites: I’m a big guy, dark hair and eyes—the kind who looks like a Saint Bernard puppy, which I don’t mind as most chicks cannot resist a Saint Bernard puppy. Mark was small and compact, with strange golden eyes and hair to match and a grin like a friendly lion. He was much stronger than he looked—he could tie me in arm wrestling. He was my best friend and we were like brothers.

Related Characters: Bryon Douglas (speaker), Charlie, Mark Jennings
Related Symbols: The Lion
Page Number and Citation: 12-13
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It was a long walk to the bowling alley, and I wished for the hundredth time I had a car. I had to walk everywhere I went. As if he’d read my mind, which he was in the habit of doing, Mark said, “I could hot-wire us a car.”

“That’s a bad thing to do,” M&M said. “Taking something that doesn’t belong to you.”

“It ain’t stealin’,” Mark said. “It’s borrowin’.”

“Yeah, well, you’re on probation now for ‘borrowing,’ so I don’t think it’s such a great idea,” I said.

Related Characters: Bryon Douglas (speaker), M&M Carlson (speaker), Mark Jennings (speaker)
Related Symbols: Cars
Page Number and Citation: 16
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Mark suddenly poked me. “You still in the mood for a little action?”

“Sure,” I said. Mark motioned toward the next intersection. There was a black guy standing there, waiting for the light to change. “We could jump him,” Mark said, but suddenly M&M spoke up.

“You make me sick! You just rescued me from some guys who were going to beat me up because I’m different from them, and now you’re going to beat up someone because he’s different from you. You think I’m weird—well, you’re the weird ones.”

Related Characters: Mark Jennings (speaker), Bryon Douglas (speaker), M&M Carlson (speaker), Mike Chambers, Curly Shepard
Page Number and Citation: 23
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Chapter 2 Quotes

I was the hustler and Mark was the thief. We were a great pair. One thing about it, though. Mark couldn’t see anything wrong with stealing stuff. I could. It didn’t much matter to me whether or not Mark was a thief, but I still felt that stealing was wrong—at least it’s against the law. I think Mark was only dimly aware of that fact. Stealing was a game to him, something to do for fun and profit, and he was careful not to get caught because that was one of the rules.

Related Characters: Bryon Douglas (speaker), Bryon’s Mother, Mark Jennings
Page Number and Citation: 25-26
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As we got into the elevator Mark said, “I’m inclined to agree with his old man. That is one stupid guy.”

“You mean it?” I said. I had been thinking about Mike’s story, and I could see his point about not hating the people who beat him up.

“Yeah, I mean it. Man, if anybody ever hurt me like that I’d hate them for the rest of my life.”

I didn’t think much about that statement then. But later I would—I still do. I think about it and think about it until I think I’m going crazy.

Related Characters: Mark Jennings (speaker), Bryon Douglas (speaker), Connie, Curly Shepard, Mike Chambers, Tim Shepard
Page Number and Citation: 41-42
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Chapter 3 Quotes

I stopped breathing for a second. Cathy was looking at Mark, and I suddenly felt like I’d swallowed a spoonful of red pepper. I felt cold and hot and sick and mad all at once. I only felt it for a second, only for a second and then it was gone—but sometimes now I wonder how it would be to feel like that all your life. You know what the crummiest feeling you can have is? To hate the person you love best in the world.

Related Characters: Bryon Douglas (speaker), Cathy Carlson, Mark Jennings
Page Number and Citation: 55
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Y’know, when I first came around tonight, after that kid cracked me, I was scared stiff. I thought I was dyin’, I was so scared. I really felt weird. But after I got to thinkin’ you were there with me, I calmed down. Bryon, you’re the only family I got, you know that? I mean, your mom’s been great to me and everything, but I don’t feel like she’s really my old lady. But I feel like you’re my brother. A real one.

Related Characters: Mark Jennings (speaker), Bryon’s Mother, Bryon Douglas
Page Number and Citation: 63
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Chapter 4 Quotes

“Yeah, but still, don’t you kinda miss that one-for-all, all-for-one routine? It’s kinda sad, really, when you get to where you don’t need a gang—I mean, like you did before.”

“It’s kind of a good thing too,” I said, “when you know your own personality so you don’t need the one the gang makes for you.”

“Yeah,” Mark sighed, “but there’s a difference. I wonder what the difference is?”

“The difference is,” I said evenly, “that was then, and this is now.”

Related Characters: Bryon Douglas (speaker), Mark Jennings (speaker)
Page Number and Citation: 69
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“Shut up, O.K.? As long as they ain’t doin’ nothin’ to you, it’s O.K. I guess you can get away with anything.”

Mark leaned back in his chair. The sun came through the small kitchen window and glinted on his eyes, turning them a bright yellow. “I guess so,” Mark said. He smiled, like an innocent lion.

Related Characters: Mark Jennings (speaker), Bryon Douglas (speaker)
Related Symbols: Cars, The Lion
Page Number and Citation: 75
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Chapter 5 Quotes

Mark didn’t understand and Cathy did. I started spending more and more time with Cathy. Since I had the car, we went for a lot of drives and got a lot of Cokes together. We were always talking to each other about the way we felt—I tried telling her how I felt about Charlie, about how shook the whole thing had me. […] I could talk to her about anything, talk to her better than I could anyone, even Mark.

After a few weeks we’d drive by the park and make out for a little while. It was different for me though, because I had quit thinking only about myself, quit pushing for all I could get.

Related Characters: Bryon Douglas (speaker), Charlie, Cathy Carlson, Mark Jennings
Related Symbols: Cars
Page Number and Citation: 87
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Chapter 6 Quotes

I looked across the street, watching some little twelve- and thirteen-year-old teeny-boppers make fools of themselves—smoking, trying to act cool, pushing each other, screaming and swearing so loud I could hear them. I had a sudden recollection of Mark and me at twelve, smoking our heads off, clowning around, hoping someone—usually some little long-haired chick—would notice us and see how cool we were. All of a sudden it seemed like I was a hundred years old, or thirty at least. I wondered if, when I got to be twenty, I would think how stupid I was at sixteen. When I remembered us, it didn’t seem possible that we had looked as silly as these teenyboppers, but I guess we had. At least then we weren’t worried about looking silly. We were sure of ourselves, so sure we were the coolest things to hit town. Now I wasn’t so sure.

Related Characters: Bryon Douglas (speaker), Cathy Carlson, Mark Jennings, M&M Carlson
Page Number and Citation: 100
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Chapter 7 Quotes

“Nothing bad happens to you when you’re a kid. Or haven’t you realized that?”

“Youth is free from worry,” I said sarcastically. “You’ve been listenin’ to too many adults.”

“I don’t worry. I’m never scared of nothing, and I never will be,” Mark said, “as long as I’m a kid.”

“You can get away with anything,” I said, because that phrase came through my head whenever I really thought about Mark.

“Yeah, I can.” He was quiet. “You used to be able to.”

I looked at him, and suddenly it was like seeing someone across a deep pit, someone you couldn’t ever reach.

Related Characters: Mark Jennings (speaker), Bryon Douglas (speaker), M&M Carlson, Charlie
Page Number and Citation: 106
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“You can’t walk through your whole life saying ‘If.’ You can’t keep trying to figure out why things happen, man. That’s what old people do. That’s when you can’t get away with things any more. You gotta just take things as they come, and quit trying to reason them out. Bryon, you never used to wonder about things. Man, I been gettin’ worried about you. You start wonderin’ why, and you get old. Lately, I felt like you were leavin’ me, man. You used to have all the answers.”

Related Characters: Mark Jennings (speaker), Bryon Douglas, Charlie
Page Number and Citation: 117
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Chapter 8 Quotes

“I don’t want anybody to fight the Shepards.”

“What?”

“I don’t want to keep this up, this getting-even jazz. It’s stupid and I’m sick of it and it keeps going in circles. I have had it—so if you’re planning any get-even mugging, forget it.”

Related Characters: Mark Jennings (speaker), Bryon Douglas (speaker), Angela Shepard, Curly Shepard, Tim Shepard, Ponyboy Curtis, Mike Chambers
Page Number and Citation: 129
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Chapter 10 Quotes

“Is that what’s buggin’ you? Listen, I didn’t sell M&M anything. He got it from somebody else. Lookit, Bryon, they’re going to get it from somebody if they want it, so why can’t I make some money? I never forced it on anybody. I never tried to talk somebody into using drugs so I could make a buck.”

He could have talked all night and I wouldn’t have changed my mind.

Related Characters: Mark Jennings (speaker), Bryon Douglas (speaker), M&M Carlson
Page Number and Citation: 147
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I wondered tiredly why I had never seen it before: Mark had absolutely no concept of what was right and what was wrong; he didn’t obey any laws, because he couldn’t see that there were any. Laws, right and wrong, they didn’t matter to Mark, because they were just words.

Related Characters: Bryon Douglas (speaker), Mark Jennings, M&M Carlson, Charlie
Page Number and Citation: 147
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Chapter 11 Quotes

“…you straighten up and they’ll let you out early on probation or parole or whatever it is, and you can come home. I’ll get you a job at the store—”

“Like hell you will […] I ain’t never goin’ back there again. When I get outa here, you ain’t never going to see me again.”

“We were like brothers,” I said, desperate. “You were my best friend—”

He laughed then, and his eyes were the golden, hard, flat eyes of a jungle animal. “Like a friend once said to me, ‘That was then, and this is now.’”

I broke out in a sweat and was suddenly glad of the walls and the guards and the bars. I think if he could have, Mark would have killed me.

Related Characters: Bryon Douglas (speaker), Mark Jennings (speaker)
Related Symbols: The Lion
Page Number and Citation: 151
Explanation and Analysis:

Mostly I wonder “what if?” What if I had found out about Mark some other time, when I wasn’t half out of my mind with worry about Cathy? What if I hadn’t met her in the first place, would I still have grown away from Mark? What if M&M had had a good trip instead of a bad one? What if someone else had turned Mark in—would there still be hope for him?

I am too mixed up to really care. And to think, I used to be sure of things. Me, once I had all the answers. I wish I was a kid again, when I had all the answers.

Related Characters: Bryon Douglas (speaker), Mark Jennings (speaker), M&M Carlson, Cathy Carlson
Page Number and Citation: 159
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Mark Jennings Character Timeline in That Was Then, This Is Now

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Chapter 1
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Sixteen-year-old Bryon Douglas and his 15-year-old friend Mark go to a nearby bar in order to hustle people at pool. It’s against the... (full context)
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Mark comes up to the bar after looking around and tells Bryon that there aren’t any... (full context)
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Charlie then tells Bryon and Mark that their friend M&M came in earlier looking for them, so the two boys finish... (full context)
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Bryon explains that in looks, he and Mark are opposites: Bryon has dark hair, dark eyes, and is a large guy. Mark, on... (full context)
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Bryon and Mark walk around looking for M&M, feeling the cool air of the fall evening. Bryon and... (full context)
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Mark asks M&M why he was looking for them, but M&M can’t remember. Then, M&M tells... (full context)
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Mark started hot-wiring cars and driving them when he was 12 years old; after a few... (full context)
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...up the two names. Bryon jokes with M&M, reciting a dirty limerick that he knows. Mark mistakenly believes that Bryon thought up the poem on the spot, and Bryon doesn’t admit... (full context)
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Mark then asks if M&M can lend him and Bryon any money. M&M replies that he... (full context)
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Mark and Bryon soon realize that they’re bored, so they decide to walk back with M&M.... (full context)
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Bryon and Mark both like fights; on a signal to each other, they attack the three guys. One... (full context)
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As Bryon, Mark, and M&M walk home, Mark points out a black guy on the corner, saying that... (full context)
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Mark and Bryon decide to return to Charlie’s to pay him the $3. Bryon briefly thinks... (full context)
Chapter 2
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The following afternoon, Mark and Bryon go to the hospital to visit Bryon’s mother. She has just had a... (full context)
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Mark and Bryon hitch a ride to the hospital with a hippie named Randy. Bryon recalls... (full context)
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At the hospital, Bryon’s mom is glad to see Bryon and Mark. Bryon explains that as usual, his mom isn’t thinking about herself: she tells them that... (full context)
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After Bryon eats, he returns to his mother’s floor and looks around for Mark. He then ducks into the kid’s room across the hall. Mark isn’t there, but Bryon... (full context)
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Mark returns with the comics as Mike finishes his story. Soon after, Mark and Bryon leave... (full context)
Chapter 3
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...to a dance that Saturday at the school gym. Cathy agrees. Later, Bryon asks if Mark wants to double date. Mark is surprised that Bryon is going out, remarking that Bryon... (full context)
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...the dance, but he doesn’t know what to wear. As Bryon shaves in the bathroom, Mark says that he found a shirt for Bryon to wear. Bryon goes into their shared... (full context)
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...M&M and figures that Bryon must know about being close with a sibling because of Mark. Bryon agrees. (full context)
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Bryon and Cathy meet up with Mark and Curtis, and Bryon is worried that Cathy might want to ditch him for Curtis... (full context)
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...evening, they hear a scream in the parking lot. Curtis finds Bryon and shouts that Mark has been hurt, and Bryon shoves his way to the parking lot. Mark is lying... (full context)
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Bryon looks at the kid who attacked Mark and says that he is going to kill him for what he did. Curtis tells... (full context)
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Soon after, the ambulance arrives, and Bryon rides with Mark to the hospital. Bryon almost starts to cry with worry. Mark asks Bryon to stay... (full context)
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When Bryon and Mark arrive home, Bryon helps Mark into bed. Mark tells Bryon that he was really scared... (full context)
Chapter 4
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...Charlie’s car, he learns that Charlie has received his draft notice. When Bryon goes home, Mark still isn’t feeling well. Mark suggests that Bryon read him a book, as Bryon used... (full context)
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Mark brings up other stories: once, he and Bryon got caught sneaking into a drive-in movie.... (full context)
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Mark tells Bryon that he feels like things are changing, and Bryon agrees. Mark points out... (full context)
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Mark still doesn’t feel well on Monday, so Bryon goes to school alone. There, everyone is... (full context)
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One day the following week, Terry Jones stops by the house and tells Bryon that Mark got caught driving the principal’s car that day. Terry assures Bryon that Mark was able... (full context)
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Just then, Mark walks in. Bryon is relieved that Mark isn’t in trouble but is furious about what... (full context)
Chapter 5
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Bryon and Mark visit Bryon’s mother at the hospital again, and afterward they stop in to see Mike.... (full context)
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...borrows $5 from M&M and says he’ll pay him back the next day. He and Mark then go to Charlie’s and discover Charlie is in a good mood: he tells them... (full context)
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Bryon and Mark hustle two tough-looking Texans. Mark helps Bryon play up the act as they lose their... (full context)
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At closing time, before Bryon and Mark leave, Bryon asks Charlie if he can borrow his car again. Charlie agrees, but when... (full context)
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When Mark and Bryon leave, the Texans stop the boys outside. The men say that they have... (full context)
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Charlie starts to say that he hopes Mark and Bryon learned from the experience—but as they’re walking away, one of the Texans dives... (full context)
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...mother returns from the hospital, and Angela gets married to one of her brother’s friends. Mark tells the police about what happened to Charlie, and the police give Charlie’s car to... (full context)
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Mark begins acting strangely, staring at Bryon as if he were a stranger. He grows frustrated... (full context)
Chapter 6
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Once the Texans have been caught, Mark and Bryon testify in the trial—The Texans are sentenced to life in prison. Bryon thinks... (full context)
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...because he thinks that no one would want to hire an arrogant kid. Bryon and Mark start getting along slightly better because Mark gives up on trying to keep things the... (full context)
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One day, Mark comments on how seriously Bryon is taking his job search because of his haircut and... (full context)
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...he loves her, and he worries about looking stupid. Cathy suggests that they pick up Mark and M&M and get a Coke together. Bryon agrees, and they go and find Mark... (full context)
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Bryon and Cathy have pick up Mark and M&M, and they all sit together in the front seat and drive down the... (full context)
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Cathy is annoyed that Mark punched the guy, and Mark quickly becomes aggravated with Cathy when she criticizes him. Bryon... (full context)
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Mark then spots Terry Jones and goes over to say hi. Cathy remarks that Mark doesn’t... (full context)
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...a girl for crying and the first time he ever felt bad for anyone except Mark. (full context)
Chapter 7
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...kid and is just going through a phase. When Bryon returns to the car, where Mark has been waiting, Mark says that the Carlsons shouldn’t be worried because nothing bad happens... (full context)
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...luck. Meanwhile, Bryon gets a job at a supermarket and keeps his attitude in check. Mark starts bringing in money too, but Bryon doesn’t ask him where he gets it. He... (full context)
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A few weeks later, Bryon and Mark go out together, driving up and down the Ribbon like old times. They spot Angela... (full context)
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Mark drives home, since Bryon is drunk. Bryon starts crying as he drunkenly rambles about Mike,... (full context)
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Bryon continues to cry, wishing he knew where M&M was. Mark promises that M&M is okay. Bryon is furious when he realizes that Mark knows where... (full context)
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Bryon then asks Mark why his father shot his mother—something he’s never asked before. Mark explains that it’s because... (full context)
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Bryon then starts talking about Charlie, again feeling guilty over his death. Mark says that they couldn’t have known what would happen, and that sometimes people get unlucky.... (full context)
Chapter 8
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...amazed that he doesn’t lose his job. Later that day, when Bryon is feeling better, Mark takes him to search for M&M. As they drive, Bryon tells Mark never to let... (full context)
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Mark and Bryon arrive at a hippie house. Bryon realizes that Mark has been there many... (full context)
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As Bryon and Mark drive home, Mark says that alcohol gets a person just as high as pot does.... (full context)
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...Bryon drops Cathy off that night, he heads to Terry Jones’s house to pick up Mark. No one is home, though, so Bryon sits on his front steps to wait. It... (full context)
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...Tim is really tough. Bryon hopes that he can keep them talking long enough for Mark to return. They tell Bryon that Angela said he got her drunk and cut off... (full context)
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When Bryon wakes up, Mark is wiping Bryon’s face with a wet cloth. Bryon explains the Shepards beat him up.... (full context)
Chapter 9
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The next day, Mark takes Bryon to the hospital, where Bryon gets 15 stitches in his face and has... (full context)
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...up. She tells him to go to bed immediately, which Bryon is glad to do. Mark also calls Cathy for Bryon while Bryon sleeps; when Bryon wakes up, Cathy is sitting... (full context)
Chapter 10
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After Bryon drops Cathy off, he returns to his room, but Mark isn’t home yet. Bryon feels completely worn out. He thinks how simple life used to... (full context)
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Soon after, Mark walks in, and Bryon confronts him about the drugs. Bryon explains that M&M may have... (full context)
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Mark says that if selling drugs bothers Bryon so much, he’ll stop. Bryon then admits that... (full context)
Chapter 11
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...he has had a nightmare. He doesn’t fully understand why he decided to turn on Mark—he knows that Mark would have quit selling drugs if Bryon asked. He worries that jail... (full context)
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...night, Cathy comes to visit. She says that Bryon’s mother told her what happened with Mark, and that she’s very sorry. Bryon is curt and angry with her, saying that Cathy... (full context)
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When Mark goes to trial, Bryon testifies against him. When Bryon describes their relationship as being “like... (full context)
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...and that his grades have all tanked. Bryon thinks back sadly to when he and Mark teased M&M about wanting a big family. M&M also tells Bryon that Cathy really liked... (full context)
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Bryon spends the summer working and trying to visit Mark, but Mark causes trouble at the reformatory and can’t have visitors. Meanwhile, Bryon is promoted;... (full context)
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...that all his hatred toward her has evaporated. She says that what Bryon did to Mark was really low, and he replies that she looks really good with short hair. On... (full context)
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At the end of August, Bryon visits Mark at the reformatory. Bryon sees that Mark has lost weight; his “sinister innocence” is gone,... (full context)
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Bryon says he hears that Mark has been causing trouble, and Mark replies that he can’t seem to get away with... (full context)
Humility, Responsibility, and Coming of Age Theme Icon
Brotherhood, Loyalty, and Betrayal Theme Icon
Bryon explains that he hasn’t visited Mark since then, and that he can’t seem to care about anyone anymore. He can’t even... (full context)