The Train Driver

by

Athol Fugard

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Roelf Visagie Character Analysis

Roelf Visagie is a white Afrikaans train driver whose train kills a young Black woman (Red Doek) and her baby. Her death fills him with guilt, grief, and anger, and he spirals into a deep depression that leads him in search of Red Doek’s corpse. As Roelf visits the town of pondoks (huts) where Red Doek lived, he begins to develop empathy for South African Blacks, which grows when he goes to the graveyard where Simon, the gravedigger, buried Red Doek and her baby in an unmarked grave. Simon cares for Roelf as Roelf grapples with his emotional turmoil, and the two men form a meaningful bond that challenges Roelf’s prejudices about Black people. Simon suggests that Roelf dig a grave for the next unidentified body and imagine the grave is for Red Doek, and Roelf is so desperate for closure that he accepts the idea. Despite Simon constantly warning him of the risk for a white man in the graveyard after dark, Roelf’s fixation on Red Doek has developed into a single-minded obsession, so he digs through the night. His recklessness eventually gets him killed by the local amagintsa (gang). His killers bury Roelf in the same hole he was digging for Red Doek.

Roelf Visagie Quotes in The Train Driver

The The Train Driver quotes below are all either spoken by Roelf Visagie or refer to Roelf Visagie. For each quote, you can also see the other characters and themes related to it (each theme is indicated by its own dot and icon, like this one:
Race and Empathy Theme Icon
).
Prologue Quotes

SIMON: My name is Simon Hanabe, I am the one who puts the nameless ones in the grave. This is how it happened. When I first see the whiteman…he is walking among the amangcwaba where the ones with names is sleeping…. Then he sees me watching him and he comes to me and starts talking but that time I didn't know what he was saying––his words were all mixed up like he was drunk. So he gets very cross with me when I shake my head and tell him I don't know what he is saying.

Related Characters: Simon Hanabe (speaker), Roelf Visagie
Related Symbols: Unmarked Graves
Page Number: 7
Explanation and Analysis:
Scene 1 Quotes

ROELF: Fucking hell! What a miserable bloody ending to your life’s story. I wouldn’t even bury my dog like this, man! (Goes to one grave and picks up an old motorcar hubcap) And this rubbish on the graves? What the hell is this idea?...You put these here?
SIMON: Ewe. There is no flowers in Shukuma.
ROELF: I see! So that is what it’s supposed to be…respect for the dead! Then why not just a simple cross, man?...Remember Jesus? You people are supposed to believe in God and Jesus, isn’t that so?

Related Characters: Roelf Visagie (speaker), Simon Hanabe (speaker)
Related Symbols: Unmarked Graves
Page Number: 10
Explanation and Analysis:

ROELF: (with vicious deliberation) Ja. Give me her name…or show me her grave…and I will do it. S’trues God. In both official languages because I am fully bilingual…I’ll do it so that her ghost can hear me. I’ll tell her how she has fucked up my life…the selfish black bitch…that I am sitting here with my arse in the dirt because thanks to her I am losing everything…my home, my family, my job…my bloody mind! Ja! Another fucking day like this one and I won’t know who I am anymore or what the fuck I am doing!

Related Characters: Roelf Visagie (speaker), Simon Hanabe, Red Doek (The Woman)
Related Symbols: Unmarked Graves
Page Number: 13
Explanation and Analysis:

ROELF: You don’t understand anything. I’ve crashed! I was on the rails, I was going forward, everything up to schedule…until it all crashed. Thanks to that woman with the red doek I don’t know if I’ve got a home anymore. I don’t know if I’ve got a family anymore, or a job or…ja…a life. You said it: this is the place for the ones without names…and I think I’m one of them now. Roelf Visagie? Who the hell is he? You got your spade so dig another grave, man.

Related Characters: Roelf Visagie (speaker), Simon Hanabe, Red Doek (The Woman)
Related Symbols: Unmarked Graves
Page Number: 14
Explanation and Analysis:
Scene 2 Quotes

ROELF: …And did you also hear “looked on helplessly”? You at least know what that means, don’t you? That means that the seriously traumatized train driver, who is me, could do fuck-all about it. That’s what they all jump on…But...I already know all that. So then if it wasn’t me, then who was it? God? That’s right. Because there was only God and me seeing how it happened. We were the only other ones who saw the look in her eyes, saw the baby’s head peeping over her shoulder! So if it wasn’t me, then was it Him?…God was only a witness, because it was Roelf Visagie who was tramping down so hard on the brake so that the wheels was screeching on the tracks.

Related Characters: Roelf Visagie (speaker), Simon Hanabe, Red Doek (The Woman)
Page Number: 19
Explanation and Analysis:

ROELF: All I could think of to say was, “What the fucking hell are you all staring at?” And Lorraine said, “These are your children, Roelf Visagie––go swear at your woman from the bush.”…When I heard those words it was like something just opened up inside me, because I suddenly realized you see that that is what I wanted to do! Ja! I wanted to take a deep breath and then load up my lungs with every dirty thing I had ever heard and then say them into the face of that woman, who still stands there waiting for me in my dreams. I wanted those to be the last words she hears when my train hits her…But the trouble was I didn’t know her name! I mean you know how it is. When you talk to somebody in your mind you think their name, don’t you?

Related Characters: Roelf Visagie (speaker), Simon Hanabe, Red Doek (The Woman), Lorraine Visagie (Roelf’s Wife)
Page Number: 22
Explanation and Analysis:
Scene 3  Quotes

ROELF: This place is a bloody disgrace to humanity!... Have you got no respect for the dead? Because if that is the case then you are worse than those dogs in the bush. And you know why? Because these are human beings lying here and you are also supposed to be one as well…(An excited little laugh as an idea occurs to him)…Ja!...you can even make a cross with [the stones]!... (On his hands and knees, placing stones on the graves) See how easy it is….

(…Roelf moves to another grave where he makes another cross. His behavior is becoming increasingly absurd.)

Related Characters: Roelf Visagie (speaker), Simon Hanabe
Related Symbols: Unmarked Graves
Page Number: 26
Explanation and Analysis:

SIMON (…He speaks firmly but gently): You must stop now looking for her.

ROELF: For who?

SIMON: For Red Doek.

ROELF: Red Doek?...

(For a few seconds the name means nothing to him…)

ROELF: That’s right…Red Doek…I’m looking for her…(He is speaking very quietly)and her baby…You realize, don’t you, Simon, that it was a woman…a mother…with her baby on her back that stepped out on to the rails…there in front of me…and waited…for me…for the end…staring and waiting…

Related Characters: Roelf Visagie (speaker), Simon Hanabe (speaker), Red Doek (The Woman)
Page Number: 27
Explanation and Analysis:

ROELF: Makes you think, doesn’t it? All of them…some mother’s children…one day you and me also…(Gestures to the graves)…and that’s how it ends for everybody. Yes...make no mistake my friend...black man or white man...the worms don’t care about that...it’s all the same to them...

Related Characters: Roelf Visagie (speaker), Simon Hanabe
Related Symbols: Unmarked Graves
Page Number: 28
Explanation and Analysis:
Scene 4 Quotes

SIMON: I sing to [the ghosts]. I sing like my mother sing to me when I was a little boy and she carry me on her back….
ROELF: You think they hear you?
SIMON: Ewe. They go back to sleep….And all is quiet again.

Related Characters: Roelf Visagie (speaker), Simon Hanabe (speaker)
Related Symbols: Unmarked Graves
Page Number: 33-34
Explanation and Analysis:

ROELF: Don’t you feel a bit sorry for them? A little bit sad?

SIMON: No….Why you ask me so much?

ROELF: Why? Because it’s one of your own people for God’s sake. It was certainly somebody’s…I don’t know…husband or brother if it was a man, or somebody’s mother or sister or wife if it was a woman. One thing I know for sure is that if I had to dig a hole and put one of my people in it, I’d have some very strange feelings inside me…even if I didn’t know their name or who they were or what they were.

Related Characters: Roelf Visagie (speaker), Simon Hanabe (speaker)
Related Symbols: Unmarked Graves
Page Number: 34
Explanation and Analysis:

ROELF: I was thinking about those pondoks in the bush…and I was thinking…she lived in one of those pondoks…Ja! That was what Red Doek called home. A young woman, a mother, with her baby! You get it? That is fucking hopeless, man. Think about it. Wouldn’t you also want to go stand on a railway line and wait for the next train if that is all life has to offer you and your baby? And then to make it worse…that is still not the end…Because the big happy ending is that Nobody Wants Her!...Nobody came to claim her! Nobody wants her! And when we start looking…even we can’t find her.

Related Characters: Roelf Visagie (speaker), Simon Hanabe, Red Doek (The Woman)
Related Symbols: Unmarked Graves
Page Number: 34-35
Explanation and Analysis:
Scene 5 Quotes

ROELF: Sometimes I think…that for me you will forever just be Red Doek standing there on the tracks, and that for you I will forever just be a white man staring at you in the few seconds before you die. But…it can’t be as simple as that!...You see, I don’t really know what your story is––who you are, where you come from, what’s your name…But now, thanks to all I’ve seen and heard in the past few weeks…I got some sort of idea, some sort of feeling about your world. You see, Red Doek, most of us white people got no idea about what it’s like because our world is so different! We always think we know––like Lorraine my wife––she thinks she knows everything about you people…and I did as well…but the truth is we don’t.

Related Characters: Roelf Visagie (speaker), Red Doek (The Woman), Lorraine Visagie (Roelf’s Wife)
Page Number: 38
Explanation and Analysis:

ROELF: I don’t know what it is like to live without hope, to give up. Because you did, didn’t you? That is why you did what you did because you didn’t believe anymore that good things was going to happen to you and your baby. I’m thinking about it all the time now, trying to imagine what it was like for you.

Related Characters: Roelf Visagie (speaker), Red Doek (The Woman)
Page Number: 39
Explanation and Analysis:
Scene 6 Quotes

SIMON: Roofie! There is bread and apricot jam….A little sweetness is good.

ROELF: The best is golden syrup on fresh white bread when it is still nice and warm. You ever had that?

SIMON: Never.

ROELF: You must try it some time. Lyle's Golden Syrup. When I was a little boy and we didn't have jam or syrup my ma used to sprinkle white sugar on my bread.

SIMON: When I was young there by Hluleka, me and my father, we used to look for wild honey in the bush. It’s also nice.

Related Characters: Roelf Visagie (speaker), Simon Hanabe (speaker)
Related Symbols: Loaves of Bread
Page Number: 41
Explanation and Analysis:

ROELF: I don't know what it means when I say she is mine, but I know she is because I feel that way inside my heart and so I claimed her. Nobody else wanted her Simon…I do, and that's the end of it.
And I will also tell you that I know when that happened…when she became mine like nothing else in my life has ever really been mine before…it was when we looked into each other's eyes in the few seconds before she and her baby died…underneath me. And you want to know something else, Simon? Maybe it was like that for her also. Ja! Have you thought about that? That I was the last human being she saw. There was no hatred in her eyes, you know, Simon, no anger...just me...she saw me.

Related Characters: Roelf Visagie (speaker), Simon Hanabe, Red Doek (The Woman)
Page Number: 43
Explanation and Analysis:
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Roelf Visagie Quotes in The Train Driver

The The Train Driver quotes below are all either spoken by Roelf Visagie or refer to Roelf Visagie. For each quote, you can also see the other characters and themes related to it (each theme is indicated by its own dot and icon, like this one:
Race and Empathy Theme Icon
).
Prologue Quotes

SIMON: My name is Simon Hanabe, I am the one who puts the nameless ones in the grave. This is how it happened. When I first see the whiteman…he is walking among the amangcwaba where the ones with names is sleeping…. Then he sees me watching him and he comes to me and starts talking but that time I didn't know what he was saying––his words were all mixed up like he was drunk. So he gets very cross with me when I shake my head and tell him I don't know what he is saying.

Related Characters: Simon Hanabe (speaker), Roelf Visagie
Related Symbols: Unmarked Graves
Page Number: 7
Explanation and Analysis:
Scene 1 Quotes

ROELF: Fucking hell! What a miserable bloody ending to your life’s story. I wouldn’t even bury my dog like this, man! (Goes to one grave and picks up an old motorcar hubcap) And this rubbish on the graves? What the hell is this idea?...You put these here?
SIMON: Ewe. There is no flowers in Shukuma.
ROELF: I see! So that is what it’s supposed to be…respect for the dead! Then why not just a simple cross, man?...Remember Jesus? You people are supposed to believe in God and Jesus, isn’t that so?

Related Characters: Roelf Visagie (speaker), Simon Hanabe (speaker)
Related Symbols: Unmarked Graves
Page Number: 10
Explanation and Analysis:

ROELF: (with vicious deliberation) Ja. Give me her name…or show me her grave…and I will do it. S’trues God. In both official languages because I am fully bilingual…I’ll do it so that her ghost can hear me. I’ll tell her how she has fucked up my life…the selfish black bitch…that I am sitting here with my arse in the dirt because thanks to her I am losing everything…my home, my family, my job…my bloody mind! Ja! Another fucking day like this one and I won’t know who I am anymore or what the fuck I am doing!

Related Characters: Roelf Visagie (speaker), Simon Hanabe, Red Doek (The Woman)
Related Symbols: Unmarked Graves
Page Number: 13
Explanation and Analysis:

ROELF: You don’t understand anything. I’ve crashed! I was on the rails, I was going forward, everything up to schedule…until it all crashed. Thanks to that woman with the red doek I don’t know if I’ve got a home anymore. I don’t know if I’ve got a family anymore, or a job or…ja…a life. You said it: this is the place for the ones without names…and I think I’m one of them now. Roelf Visagie? Who the hell is he? You got your spade so dig another grave, man.

Related Characters: Roelf Visagie (speaker), Simon Hanabe, Red Doek (The Woman)
Related Symbols: Unmarked Graves
Page Number: 14
Explanation and Analysis:
Scene 2 Quotes

ROELF: …And did you also hear “looked on helplessly”? You at least know what that means, don’t you? That means that the seriously traumatized train driver, who is me, could do fuck-all about it. That’s what they all jump on…But...I already know all that. So then if it wasn’t me, then who was it? God? That’s right. Because there was only God and me seeing how it happened. We were the only other ones who saw the look in her eyes, saw the baby’s head peeping over her shoulder! So if it wasn’t me, then was it Him?…God was only a witness, because it was Roelf Visagie who was tramping down so hard on the brake so that the wheels was screeching on the tracks.

Related Characters: Roelf Visagie (speaker), Simon Hanabe, Red Doek (The Woman)
Page Number: 19
Explanation and Analysis:

ROELF: All I could think of to say was, “What the fucking hell are you all staring at?” And Lorraine said, “These are your children, Roelf Visagie––go swear at your woman from the bush.”…When I heard those words it was like something just opened up inside me, because I suddenly realized you see that that is what I wanted to do! Ja! I wanted to take a deep breath and then load up my lungs with every dirty thing I had ever heard and then say them into the face of that woman, who still stands there waiting for me in my dreams. I wanted those to be the last words she hears when my train hits her…But the trouble was I didn’t know her name! I mean you know how it is. When you talk to somebody in your mind you think their name, don’t you?

Related Characters: Roelf Visagie (speaker), Simon Hanabe, Red Doek (The Woman), Lorraine Visagie (Roelf’s Wife)
Page Number: 22
Explanation and Analysis:
Scene 3  Quotes

ROELF: This place is a bloody disgrace to humanity!... Have you got no respect for the dead? Because if that is the case then you are worse than those dogs in the bush. And you know why? Because these are human beings lying here and you are also supposed to be one as well…(An excited little laugh as an idea occurs to him)…Ja!...you can even make a cross with [the stones]!... (On his hands and knees, placing stones on the graves) See how easy it is….

(…Roelf moves to another grave where he makes another cross. His behavior is becoming increasingly absurd.)

Related Characters: Roelf Visagie (speaker), Simon Hanabe
Related Symbols: Unmarked Graves
Page Number: 26
Explanation and Analysis:

SIMON (…He speaks firmly but gently): You must stop now looking for her.

ROELF: For who?

SIMON: For Red Doek.

ROELF: Red Doek?...

(For a few seconds the name means nothing to him…)

ROELF: That’s right…Red Doek…I’m looking for her…(He is speaking very quietly)and her baby…You realize, don’t you, Simon, that it was a woman…a mother…with her baby on her back that stepped out on to the rails…there in front of me…and waited…for me…for the end…staring and waiting…

Related Characters: Roelf Visagie (speaker), Simon Hanabe (speaker), Red Doek (The Woman)
Page Number: 27
Explanation and Analysis:

ROELF: Makes you think, doesn’t it? All of them…some mother’s children…one day you and me also…(Gestures to the graves)…and that’s how it ends for everybody. Yes...make no mistake my friend...black man or white man...the worms don’t care about that...it’s all the same to them...

Related Characters: Roelf Visagie (speaker), Simon Hanabe
Related Symbols: Unmarked Graves
Page Number: 28
Explanation and Analysis:
Scene 4 Quotes

SIMON: I sing to [the ghosts]. I sing like my mother sing to me when I was a little boy and she carry me on her back….
ROELF: You think they hear you?
SIMON: Ewe. They go back to sleep….And all is quiet again.

Related Characters: Roelf Visagie (speaker), Simon Hanabe (speaker)
Related Symbols: Unmarked Graves
Page Number: 33-34
Explanation and Analysis:

ROELF: Don’t you feel a bit sorry for them? A little bit sad?

SIMON: No….Why you ask me so much?

ROELF: Why? Because it’s one of your own people for God’s sake. It was certainly somebody’s…I don’t know…husband or brother if it was a man, or somebody’s mother or sister or wife if it was a woman. One thing I know for sure is that if I had to dig a hole and put one of my people in it, I’d have some very strange feelings inside me…even if I didn’t know their name or who they were or what they were.

Related Characters: Roelf Visagie (speaker), Simon Hanabe (speaker)
Related Symbols: Unmarked Graves
Page Number: 34
Explanation and Analysis:

ROELF: I was thinking about those pondoks in the bush…and I was thinking…she lived in one of those pondoks…Ja! That was what Red Doek called home. A young woman, a mother, with her baby! You get it? That is fucking hopeless, man. Think about it. Wouldn’t you also want to go stand on a railway line and wait for the next train if that is all life has to offer you and your baby? And then to make it worse…that is still not the end…Because the big happy ending is that Nobody Wants Her!...Nobody came to claim her! Nobody wants her! And when we start looking…even we can’t find her.

Related Characters: Roelf Visagie (speaker), Simon Hanabe, Red Doek (The Woman)
Related Symbols: Unmarked Graves
Page Number: 34-35
Explanation and Analysis:
Scene 5 Quotes

ROELF: Sometimes I think…that for me you will forever just be Red Doek standing there on the tracks, and that for you I will forever just be a white man staring at you in the few seconds before you die. But…it can’t be as simple as that!...You see, I don’t really know what your story is––who you are, where you come from, what’s your name…But now, thanks to all I’ve seen and heard in the past few weeks…I got some sort of idea, some sort of feeling about your world. You see, Red Doek, most of us white people got no idea about what it’s like because our world is so different! We always think we know––like Lorraine my wife––she thinks she knows everything about you people…and I did as well…but the truth is we don’t.

Related Characters: Roelf Visagie (speaker), Red Doek (The Woman), Lorraine Visagie (Roelf’s Wife)
Page Number: 38
Explanation and Analysis:

ROELF: I don’t know what it is like to live without hope, to give up. Because you did, didn’t you? That is why you did what you did because you didn’t believe anymore that good things was going to happen to you and your baby. I’m thinking about it all the time now, trying to imagine what it was like for you.

Related Characters: Roelf Visagie (speaker), Red Doek (The Woman)
Page Number: 39
Explanation and Analysis:
Scene 6 Quotes

SIMON: Roofie! There is bread and apricot jam….A little sweetness is good.

ROELF: The best is golden syrup on fresh white bread when it is still nice and warm. You ever had that?

SIMON: Never.

ROELF: You must try it some time. Lyle's Golden Syrup. When I was a little boy and we didn't have jam or syrup my ma used to sprinkle white sugar on my bread.

SIMON: When I was young there by Hluleka, me and my father, we used to look for wild honey in the bush. It’s also nice.

Related Characters: Roelf Visagie (speaker), Simon Hanabe (speaker)
Related Symbols: Loaves of Bread
Page Number: 41
Explanation and Analysis:

ROELF: I don't know what it means when I say she is mine, but I know she is because I feel that way inside my heart and so I claimed her. Nobody else wanted her Simon…I do, and that's the end of it.
And I will also tell you that I know when that happened…when she became mine like nothing else in my life has ever really been mine before…it was when we looked into each other's eyes in the few seconds before she and her baby died…underneath me. And you want to know something else, Simon? Maybe it was like that for her also. Ja! Have you thought about that? That I was the last human being she saw. There was no hatred in her eyes, you know, Simon, no anger...just me...she saw me.

Related Characters: Roelf Visagie (speaker), Simon Hanabe, Red Doek (The Woman)
Page Number: 43
Explanation and Analysis: