The Wars

The Wars

by

Timothy Findley

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Clive d’Orsey / Lord Clive Stourbridge Character Analysis

The eldest child of the Marquis and Marchioness of St. Aubyn’s, who own St. Aubyn’s abbey in London. He is the brother of Barbara, Clive, Michael, and Temple d’Orsey. Growing up, Clive is a close friend of Jamie Villiers, whom he rides horses with. Juliet believes that Clive and Jamie were emotionally (but not romantically) in love with each other, and Barbara is jealous of their relationship. Clive becomes a Cambridge poet and a soldier in World War I; his writing draws on his experiences in the war. On his leave, he comes to rest at St. Aubyn’s, which is converted into a convalescence hospital during the war. Here, he invites over a group of pacifist friends whose beliefs offend Michael. Once he returns to war, he is killed in the Somme offensive on July 1, 1916.

Clive d’Orsey / Lord Clive Stourbridge Quotes in The Wars

The The Wars quotes below are all either spoken by Clive d’Orsey / Lord Clive Stourbridge or refer to Clive d’Orsey / Lord Clive Stourbridge. For each quote, you can also see the other characters and themes related to it (each theme is indicated by its own dot and icon, like this one:
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). Note: all page numbers and citation info for the quotes below refer to the Penguin Australia edition of The Wars published in 1995.
Part 4 Quotes

Someone once said to Clive: do you think we will ever be forgiven for what we’ve done? They meant their generation and the war and what the war had done to civilization. Clive said something I’ve never forgotten. He said: I doubt we’ll ever be forgiven. All I hope is—they’ll remember we were human beings.

Page Number: 180
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Clive d’Orsey / Lord Clive Stourbridge Character Timeline in The Wars

The timeline below shows where the character Clive d’Orsey / Lord Clive Stourbridge appears in The Wars. The colored dots and icons indicate which themes are associated with that appearance.
Part 2, Chapter 12
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Loss of Innocence Theme Icon
Honor, Duty, and Heroism Theme Icon
...Taffler visited in the hospital. Jamie was a close friend of Julie and Barbara’s brother Clive, as they both loved to ride horses. Juliet says that Barbara was attracted to Jamie’s... (full context)
Honor, Duty, and Heroism Theme Icon
Juliet reflects that Jamie and Clive were in love and remembers that Barbara stole Jamie away from another woman when he... (full context)
Part 4
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Juliet and Barbara’s brother Clive arrives at St. Aubyn’s with a large group of friends, all of whom are pacifists.... (full context)
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Blame, Revenge, and Justice Theme Icon
Loss of Innocence Theme Icon
The next day, Juliet feels terribly guilty and cannot stop crying. Clive comes to sit with her, and she asks him why Robert and Barbara are so... (full context)
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Blame, Revenge, and Justice Theme Icon
Finishing up her story, Juliet reflects that Clive did not think the Great War generation would ever be forgiven for their actions, but... (full context)